Owner/Founder of Whole Foods Market John Mackey speaks with Michael about the hardships of starting and maintaining a business. Mackey talks about his upbringing, the role his father played in supporting his dreams, and how he had to go against the grain to achieve his goals. Listen in to hear about how Mackey’s choice to drop out of school at the age of nineteen led him to create America's largest multi-million-dollar supermarket chain. www.wholefoodsmarket.com/IG: @wholefoods Michael’s most recent album ‘Work Hard And Be Nice’ is out now: https://orcd.co/work-hard-and-be-niceKeep in touch with Michael online: www.michaelfranti.comThe Stay Human podcast is available wherever you listen to podcasts: www.stayhumanpodcast.com PODCAST EPISODE CREDITS:Executive Producers: Michael Franti and Activist Artists ManagementProducer: Angie Griffith for Activist Artists ManagementArtist Manager: Caitlin Stone for Activist Artists ManagementManagement Coordinator: Ashley Dill for Activist Artists ManagementSocial Media Manager: Emily Marquis for Coffeehouse CollectiveIn Partnership with: American Songwriter Podcast Network (Dan Wise, COO)  Instrumental from: “Crazy For You” by Michael Franti Audio Editing by: Adam Hendricks for Resonate Recordings