Bruce Fenton, founder of the Satoshi Roundtable and Chainstone Labs, joins the show to talk security tokens and tokens-which-are-securities. In this episode: About Bruce's company Chainstone labs How the Bitcoin Roundtable is intertwined with Bitcoin history and the blocksize debate Coinbase's ongoing rapprochement with Bitcoiners Why longevity is so difficult in the crypto industry Are we living in the most historically aggressive period in terms of regulatory oversight into the industry? What Bruce makes of Heath Tarbert's comments on Ethereum Continuing uncertainty about the status of Ripple's XRP – and what possible outcomes look like The prospects for token S1s and a genuine standard of disclosure for new issuances Why trying to avoid securities laws causes token issuers to create subpar instruments How much control do governance tokens really give tokenholders? Why Bitcoin isn't sufficient to resist the state alone – and what tools are part of that toolkit Why the US should consider disrupting itself with regards to managing the world's financial system Why some people like security tokens for the wrong reasons The logistical advantages of tokenizing a security How security tokens could open up mid-size businesses which don't have access to capital markets