There’s a lot of noise telling you how you should build your business.

Reality is, it ain’t as pretty and glamorous as many people make it see.

You’ll have to make sacrifices, work hard, and do boring work. Lots of boring work.

That’s part of the conversation we had today with our friend, Jan Ditchfield, who transitioned her multi-million dollar experience with non-profits into the for-profit world.

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