Tres Crow (@dogeatcrow) solo hosts this interesting conversation with musician and burgeoning Doomer Optimist, Uncivilized Tom (@uncivilizedtom). This is one of the first episodes that really stray from the normal political discussions and veer into cultural territory...in this case discussing music. Get ready to nerd out about jazz among other things!

About Uncivilized Tom
un-musician, father, husband, leader of the band Uncivilized, and writer at aquarium drunkard.

About Tres Crow
Tres is making the world a greener place one urban space at a time with my friends Roots Down. He's a storyteller and marketing dude. He loves natural urbanism and climate justice.