Rookie of the Year Jerry Trainor and Bachelor Historian Lori join Arden, Anna and Katie to discuss the rudest finale and After the Final Rose of all time! Special surprise fake outs! Can I finish?! I can not give you my final rose!- Arden thinks Juan Pablo was the most disrespectful Bachelor of all time!- Jerry thinks Clare was a Pheonix rising from the ashes!- Lori said Juan Pablo lied and told the producers he had a big surprise!All that plus........TWEET OF THE WEEK! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.