Dr. Bjorn Lomborg joins us to continue the conversation on rational environmentalism which we left off with Michael Shellenberger. What are the second order effects of climate change policies, like the ones we find in the Green New Deal, on poor communities and developing countries? How do these policies - counterintuitively - actually hurt the environment more than doing nothing? And what are the 21st century solutions humanity should pursue to propel everybody into safer, cleaner societies? Dr. Bjorn Lomborg is president of the Copenhagen Consensus Center and visiting professor at Copenhagen Business School. The Copenhagen Consensus Center is a think-tank that researches the smartest ways to do good. For this work, Lomborg was named one of TIME magazine’s 100 most influential people in the world. His most recent book is "False Alarm: How Climate Change Panic Costs Us Trillions, Hurts the Poor, and Fails to Fix the Planet." Follow Dr. Lomborg on Twitter at @BjornLomborg.