Episode 48 is here for your listening pleasure as a newer face & voice in the world of UFO's & conciousness, Shao Ma joins me. Shao was born & raised in China, then moved to Australia where she now practices Law;




China's stance on UFO's
Being a UFOlogist in China
Her own experiences with UFO's/Beings?
Being monitored by the CCP for her views & opinions
Famous cases in China
Listener questions
Quickfire round
And much, much more



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Enjoy folks!

Keep lookin' up,

Andy