It was an era in which lawmakers and office holders learned that imprecision could actually work to their benefit to allow them to do what they wanted to because there was unclear codification in the law. And so yes, everybody talks about, we have to revise this law or get rid of this law or replace this law. But I want to say, it's not about that. It's about what constitutes a legitimately written, voted upon law. And I think that's something we still haven't countered since 9/11.Karen GreenbergA full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on the War on Terror here.Karen Greenberg is the director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law, a fellow at New America, and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Her new book is Subtle Tools: The Dismantling of American Democracy from the War on Terror to Donald Trump.Key Highlights IncludeThe origin of the AUMF and the Department of Homeland SecurityKaren Greenberg describes the subtle toolsThe link between the War on Terror and President TrumpHow will history view the 2020 electionIs the United States an illiberal democracy?Key LinksSubtle Tools: The Dismantling of American Democracy from the War on Terror to Donald Trump by Karen GreenbergVital Interests Podcast with Karen GreenbergFollow Karen Greenberg on Twitter @KarenGreenberg3Related ContentCharles Kupchan on America's Tradition of IsolationismCan America Preserve Democracy without Retreating from it? Robert C. Lieberman on the Four ThreatsMore from the PodcastMore InformationDemocracy GroupApes of the State created all MusicEmail the show at jkempf@democracyparadox.comFollow on Twitter @DemParadoxFollow on Instagram @democracyparadoxpodcast100 Books on Democracy