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4.7: On the Other Side of Darkness
4.7: On the Other Side of Darkness
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Length:
150 minutes
Released:
Dec 18, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode
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On the podcast this week: our final episode of Season 4, Iraj returns to talk about asteroids, nuclear explosions, and capes, Thom names names, and Nina looks at alternative narrative frameworks. Plus we clean up a few ambiguities, answer some questions, and come clean about our favorite mobile suits. Will Thom's controversial takes enrage the MSB fandom?!
Names, Names, Names:
The Geara Doga
_The Nagano designs for a 'Killah Doga' / キラ・ドガ and a サイコ・ドーラ can be seen in this Twitter post by Mark Simmons. _
_The DWDS (Digital Dictionary of the German language) records usages of Killer going back to 1972. _
The assertion that the Geara Doga and its gear was designed to look like a German WWII soldier is from the Japanese Wikipedia page for the Geara Doga, which cites: Yutaka Izubuchi "Yutaka Izubuchi Mechanical Design Works (1)" Movic, August 2000, pp. 16-17. ISBN 978-4896014907.
The Alpha Azieru
Izubuchi Yutaka explains that he drew the Alpha Azieru without having been asked, and says that the name comes from the Greek letter α and the word アジール, meaning an asylum or refuge.
Background on what アジール means in Japanese can be found at the Japanese Wikipedia page.
Jisho.org page on アジール which specifies the German derivation from Asyl.
The Sazabi
Izubuchi Yutaka explains that the prior title for the MS was ザ・ナック and that he thought Sazabi would be hard to trademark.
ZeonicScanlations Twitter thread translating excerpts from an old Animedia book and specifying the Sotheby's reference.
_ZeonicScanlations page translating a section of B-Club 30 from 1988 about the Sazabi, mentioning Zanac and the conflict with a similarly named Famicom game. _
The video game Zanac, which prevented CCA from using ザ・ナック for the Sazabi.
_Japanese Wikipedia page on the Sazabi. _
_Japanese Wikipedia page for The Knack (the band). _
And the Japanese Wikipedia page for "My Sharona," specifically.
_A rundown by Zimmerit.moe of musical references included in Nagano Mamoru's Five Star Stories. _
English-language interview with Izubuchi Yutaka in which he mentions the name issues for the Sazabi.
Nagano's design for the Naitiengeaile (Nightingale) can be seen on this twitter post by Mark Simmons.
Nagano's revision of the Naitiengeaile as the Nahatgall (ナハトガル, Nachtigall) can be seen here, or here.
Story Structures, Cross-Cultural Analysis:
Masterclass overview of 4 different story structures.
Author Kim Yoon Mi's overview of story structures from around the world.
Tofugu article about how arguments are structured in Japanese (with reference to how this relates to Japanese story structures.
Blog post from art-collective Still Eating Oranges about "plot without conflict."
_dbpedia and Japanese Wikipedia pages for kishoutenketsu (起承転結). _
_Articles on kishoutenketsu from Art of Narrative, Book Riot, Mythic Scribes, and Tofugu (Tofugu specifically looking at how this structure is used in Japanese horror). _
Papers and articles:
Francisco Vaz da Silva. “Narrative Cultures in the Mirror.” Narrative Culture, vol. 1, no. 1, Wayne State University Press, 2014, pp. 85–108, https://doi.org/10.13110/narrcult.1.1.0085.
Matsuyama, Utako K. “Can Story Grammar Speak Japanese?” The Reading Teacher, vol. 36, no. 7, [Wiley, International Reading Association], 1983, pp. 666–69, http://www.jstor.org/stable/20198301.
Koenitz, Hartmut & Pastena, Andrea & Jansen, Dennis & Lint, Brian & Moss, Amanda. (2018). The Myth of ‘Universal’ Narrative Models. 10.1007/978-3-030-04028-4_8. Accessed at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329064597_The_Myth_of_%27Universal%27_Narrative_Models
Lien, Henry. “Diversity Plus: Diverse Story Forms and Themes, Not Just Diverse Faces.” SFWA, 18 Dec. 2020, https://www.sfwa.org/2021/01/05/diversity-plus-diverse-story-forms-and-themes-not-just-diverse-faces/.
Wikipedia page for jo-ha-kyuu (序破急).
Mobile Suit Breakdown is written, recorded, and produced within Lenapehoking, the ancestral and unceded homeland of the Lenape, or Delaware, peopl
On the podcast this week: our final episode of Season 4, Iraj returns to talk about asteroids, nuclear explosions, and capes, Thom names names, and Nina looks at alternative narrative frameworks. Plus we clean up a few ambiguities, answer some questions, and come clean about our favorite mobile suits. Will Thom's controversial takes enrage the MSB fandom?!
Names, Names, Names:
The Geara Doga
_The Nagano designs for a 'Killah Doga' / キラ・ドガ and a サイコ・ドーラ can be seen in this Twitter post by Mark Simmons. _
_The DWDS (Digital Dictionary of the German language) records usages of Killer going back to 1972. _
The assertion that the Geara Doga and its gear was designed to look like a German WWII soldier is from the Japanese Wikipedia page for the Geara Doga, which cites: Yutaka Izubuchi "Yutaka Izubuchi Mechanical Design Works (1)" Movic, August 2000, pp. 16-17. ISBN 978-4896014907.
The Alpha Azieru
Izubuchi Yutaka explains that he drew the Alpha Azieru without having been asked, and says that the name comes from the Greek letter α and the word アジール, meaning an asylum or refuge.
Background on what アジール means in Japanese can be found at the Japanese Wikipedia page.
Jisho.org page on アジール which specifies the German derivation from Asyl.
The Sazabi
Izubuchi Yutaka explains that the prior title for the MS was ザ・ナック and that he thought Sazabi would be hard to trademark.
ZeonicScanlations Twitter thread translating excerpts from an old Animedia book and specifying the Sotheby's reference.
_ZeonicScanlations page translating a section of B-Club 30 from 1988 about the Sazabi, mentioning Zanac and the conflict with a similarly named Famicom game. _
The video game Zanac, which prevented CCA from using ザ・ナック for the Sazabi.
_Japanese Wikipedia page on the Sazabi. _
_Japanese Wikipedia page for The Knack (the band). _
And the Japanese Wikipedia page for "My Sharona," specifically.
_A rundown by Zimmerit.moe of musical references included in Nagano Mamoru's Five Star Stories. _
English-language interview with Izubuchi Yutaka in which he mentions the name issues for the Sazabi.
Nagano's design for the Naitiengeaile (Nightingale) can be seen on this twitter post by Mark Simmons.
Nagano's revision of the Naitiengeaile as the Nahatgall (ナハトガル, Nachtigall) can be seen here, or here.
Story Structures, Cross-Cultural Analysis:
Masterclass overview of 4 different story structures.
Author Kim Yoon Mi's overview of story structures from around the world.
Tofugu article about how arguments are structured in Japanese (with reference to how this relates to Japanese story structures.
Blog post from art-collective Still Eating Oranges about "plot without conflict."
_dbpedia and Japanese Wikipedia pages for kishoutenketsu (起承転結). _
_Articles on kishoutenketsu from Art of Narrative, Book Riot, Mythic Scribes, and Tofugu (Tofugu specifically looking at how this structure is used in Japanese horror). _
Papers and articles:
Francisco Vaz da Silva. “Narrative Cultures in the Mirror.” Narrative Culture, vol. 1, no. 1, Wayne State University Press, 2014, pp. 85–108, https://doi.org/10.13110/narrcult.1.1.0085.
Matsuyama, Utako K. “Can Story Grammar Speak Japanese?” The Reading Teacher, vol. 36, no. 7, [Wiley, International Reading Association], 1983, pp. 666–69, http://www.jstor.org/stable/20198301.
Koenitz, Hartmut & Pastena, Andrea & Jansen, Dennis & Lint, Brian & Moss, Amanda. (2018). The Myth of ‘Universal’ Narrative Models. 10.1007/978-3-030-04028-4_8. Accessed at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329064597_The_Myth_of_%27Universal%27_Narrative_Models
Lien, Henry. “Diversity Plus: Diverse Story Forms and Themes, Not Just Diverse Faces.” SFWA, 18 Dec. 2020, https://www.sfwa.org/2021/01/05/diversity-plus-diverse-story-forms-and-themes-not-just-diverse-faces/.
Wikipedia page for jo-ha-kyuu (序破急).
Mobile Suit Breakdown is written, recorded, and produced within Lenapehoking, the ancestral and unceded homeland of the Lenape, or Delaware, peopl
Released:
Dec 18, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode
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