We discuss a wide range of topics with Jesse:How Jesse grew up financially and what it taught him. How The Best Interest got started.  His five core pillars on the Best Interest are: (1) personal finance is personal, (2) money involves math and psychology, (3) money isn’t a dirty subject, (4) optimize your success-to-stress ratio, and (5) personal finance isn’t rocket science.The financial order of operations.  His love of the YNAB app.If given the chance, what he would write on a billboard.  His recent engagement and why his future brother-in-law was wearing a ghillie suit.Show References:David Foster Wallace Commencement Speech - “this is water” referenceThe Best Interest BlogThe Best Interest 5 Core PillarsThe Best Interest Financial Order of OperationsThe Best Interest PodcastAmazon: ghillie suitsYou Need a Budget App---Follow friends on FIRETwitterInstagramFacebookLinkedInLeave us a voicemail or text us: 404-981-3370eMail us at:  friendsonfiremm@gmail.comVisit our website: www.friendsonfire.orgfriends on FIRE etsy store---Other LinksMaggie’s Blog: Mostly Minimal LifeMike’s Book: Your New Relationship with Money