Think about high-end guilloché and chances are, you think about a chalet-like Maison somewhere in the snowy Swiss hills. The urban sprawl of Los Angeles, California — not so much. Nonetheless, this is where some of the finest engine turning in the world is being created right now — thanks to Joshua Shapiro. We chat with Shapiro about the fine art of engine turning, and what it’s like to invent your own unique guilloché pattern. Shapiro talks about what drives his watchmaking and why — even if perfection isn’t humanly possible — it’s still worth pursuing. We cover off collaboration, and Shapiro teases some details about the possibility of a Californian-made Shapiro Movement. And just in case that wasn’t enough, Andy and Felix ponder the next big thing in watches. https://www.otpodcast.com.au/show-notes/s3e3 This week’s episode is sponsored by Artem Straps. Check out their sailcloth straps here. https://artemstraps.com/ Want to be part of the OT: The Podcast community? Join our Discord! The home of the hot take. Show Notes: Sergei Krikalev, the last Soviet citizen Watches of Espionage on Hodinkee Artem’s loop-less sailcloth strap J.N. Shapiro watches J.N. Shapiro watches on Instagram Jeff Kingston explains guilloché dial Wheel of Time Trailer on Youtube   How to follow us: Instagram: @ot.podcast Facebook: @OTPODCASTAU Follow hosts: @fkscholz + @andygreenlive on Instagram. Submit an application to our quasi-professional watch matchmaking service, by email: otthepodcast@gmail.com If you liked our podcast - please remember to like/share and subscribe.