“Leadership is a science, just like medicine, and there are theories and facts and best practices in leadership that we know work. If you understand them, then you can become a better leader,” says Dr. John Tomkowiak, who has had many opportunities to lead in his long career in medical education. Among the best practices he brought to his current role as founding dean of Washington State University Elson S. Floyd College of Medicine, is focusing on creating a culture that supports change, and then implementing changes in the right sequence. “For me, those two things generally lead to great results.” He also believes in making sure employees know that they need to take care of themselves and loved ones first, and only then prioritize their work. Join host Rishi Desai for a conversation full of lessons on leadership and continuous improvement, and insights on the state of medical education.