The Ocean mastermind Robin Staps is back on the show to discuss the band's new album, Phanerozoic II: Mesozoic|Cenozoic. Robin discusses how the two Phanerozoic albums sound completely different despite being recorded at the same time, Jonas from Katatonia's guest appearance, the difficultly in finding fossils for the box set version of the album, and how he predicted the future with regards to Covid-19 in The Ocean's Collective Oblivion DVD, released in 2013. Robin also shares his thoughts on Pelagial making some best-of-decade lists, the delayed recognition that record got from his fanbase, and the importance of his father being a jazz musician in his musical path.

Petar, Brandon, and Jozalyn discuss recording the podcast on Petar’s 40th birthday, and the untimely death of Power Trip's Riley Gale.

Songs: The Ocean - “Jurassic/Cretaceous" (featuring. Jonas Renske of Katatonia), Varg - “Zeichen” and Power Trip - “Executioner’s Tax (Swing of The Axe)”

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