“Travel imparts a liquid language whose sole property is the flow of questions.”  –Marcia DeSanctis

In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Marcia talk about what it was like to work as a TV producer for Barbara Walters (1:30); how she made the decision to transition into prose writing, and how a sense of curiosity and abandon can inspire travel and travel writing (6:00); how we all change as travelers over the course of a lifetime (13:00); the way the things we bring home from our travels shape our memories of places (21:30); and how travel is a way to reinvent oneself (30:00).

Marcia DeSanctis (marciadesanctis1) is a Contributing Writer for Travel + Leisure. Her 2022 essay collection is entitled A Hard Place to Leave: Stories from a Restless Life.

Notable Links:

Barbara Walters (American TV host)
Muammar Gaddafi (Libyan revolutionary)
The Millions (online literary magazine)
Souvenir, book by Rolf Potts (book)
Alexander Pushkin (Russian poet)
Kievan Rus' (medieval state)
Leningrad (former name of St. Petersburg)
Trans–Mongolian Railway (Asian train route)
A&E Biography (TV program)

The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel’s 2017 album Lumber.

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