In a world where culture leads politics, what is the role of the artist in political activism? This week, we interview Massive Attack's Rob "3D" Del Naja and long-time collaborator, Mark Donne to discuss intentional, subversive creation in times of COVID. One such timely creation came about last week when Massive Attack collaborated with Mark and our very own Christiana Figueres to create a sonic experience that evokes an unsettling of the self to expose the dark, dystopian reality that the climate crisis has promised. Based on the backdrop of Sir Thomas More's 1516 "Utopia" The 3 songs on Massive Attack's EP "Eutopia" as described in their own words, "have nothing to do with naïve notions of an ideal, perfect world, and everything to do with the urgent & practical need to build something better." And, as Tom is away on holiday, we are joined by a guest co-host! None other than brilliant author and writer, Saci Lloyd. Saci is a pioneer in the Cli-Fi book genre, and has written the critically acclaimed series, "The Carbon Diaries." Her quick wit, irreverent pen, artistic spirit, and deep knowledge of everything climate helps us unpack how we should protect and view the role of the artist in a society that so desperately needs them. --- Massive Attack's stunning visual creation "Eutopia" featuring Christiana Figueres: https://bit.ly/3fH7XWw --- Saci Lloyd's Books: https://amzn.to/2B4Of7Y Her latest book, "72 To Save A Zoo": https://amzn.to/3fFfo0n --- Join @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram --- Dont forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism!