“Travel should not be a checklist; it should be about having new experiences” – Catherine Price

Catherine Price (@Catherine_Price) is a journalist and author of How to Break Up with Your Phone and 101 Places Not to See Before You Die.

In this episode of Deviate, Rolf and Catherine discuss digital distractions and their effects on our brains (2:00); reframing the way we think about our smartphones (9:30); being deliberate with our attention (12:30); setting ourselves up for success and creating the necessary "speed-bumps" (17:00); paying attention to our body (21:30); developing a technology-separation practice-trial, and using technology to protect ourselves from technology (29:00); and getting existential about how we think of time management (42:00).

For more from Catherine, check out her website at phonebreakup.com

Notable Links:

"What Would It Take for You to Be Still?" by Catherine Price (article)
"How to Break Up With Your Phone" by Catherine Price (article)
Edward Tronick and the “Still Face Experiment”
University of Massachusetts Center for Mindfulness
The Craving Mind, by Judson Brewer (book)
Freedom (computer program and app)
Inbox When Ready (computer program)

The Deviate theme music comes from the title track of Cedar Van Tassel's 2017 album Lumber.

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