“The greatest blessing for me, from having all these losses, has been the otherworldly, supreme clarity about what’s important to me—about how much I love and how much I am loved.” – Heather Dobbins

In this episode of Deviate, Rolf, Heather Dobbins, and Jamie-Lee Josselyn discuss personal loss, grief and mourning, including the importance of gestures over words (2:30); the rituals that surround loss and mourning (18:00); the task of facing holidays and difficult moments in the years following a personal loss (30:00); and funerals and bearing witness to the life and death of loved ones (44:00).

Heather Dobbins, is a teacher, poet, and writer of In the Low Houses and River Mouth. Jamie-Lee Josselyn (@jljosselyn), is a creative writing instructor, essayist, and host of the Dead Parents Society podcast.

Notable Links:

Rainer Maria Rilke (poet)
"A Coffin—is A Small Domain," by Emily Dickinson
The Book of Psalms: A Translation (book)
Guests of My Life, by Elizabeth Watson (book)
Elegy: Poems, by Mary Jo Bang (book)
"You Were You Are Elegy," by Mary Jo Bang
David Letterman (television host)
Annie Dillard (author)
Six Feet Under (television series)
Freaks and Geeks (television series)
The Legend of Zelda (video game series)
Sudden unexplained death in childhood
The Kelly Writers House

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