Eight days on from the invasion of Ukraine and much has changed since our last episode. We discuss our vote against the European Parliament resolution on Ukraine which has drawn considerable anger. We didn’t vote against condemning Russian aggression, we voted to condemn Russian aggression and will continue to do so. Our vote was against accelerating the provision of military equipment and weapons to Ukraine, strengthening NATO’s forward presence, further increasing defence spending, and activating European common and joint defence efforts. We discuss the question of Ukrainian defence and why channelling arms to the Ukrainians to fight this vastly unequal war will only lead to more devastation. We talk about the need for dialogue and diplomacy and the idea that calls for dialogue are rooted in naivety. Finally we discuss the possible ways out of the conflict. There's a lot to unpack here and this one dives deep