Very, VERY excitingly, this week we natter with one of the best climate communicators around, who also happens to be one of the planet's foremost climate scientists.



Professor Katharine Hayhoe is a United Nations 'Champion of the Earth', chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy, and one of Time Magazine's 100 most influential people.



Her new book, Saving Us, makes the case that the most important thing we can do about climate change is the one thing we're terrible at - talking about it. But by talking, Katharine doesn't mean passive aggressively quoting IPCC reports and hurling Keeling curves at each other. Instead, we must 'bond, connect and inspire' if we want to actually change anything.



If you, like us, want more Katharine in your brain, you can:- Pick up a copy of her new book- Watch her 2018 TED talk- Read her Time article about hope- Follow her on Twitter- Head to 'Count us in', a Don't Look Up follow-on, advised by Katharine



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