Catherine Liu is the author of Virtue Hoarders: The Case against the Professional Managerial Class. She joins us to discuss Todd Hayne's 1995 masterpiece 'SAFE'. Topics include the director's razor-sharp indictment of PMC ambivalence, the dogmatic substitution of collective progress with personalized healing in New Age practices, and the indelible grotesquerie of peach and teal.....Our them song is 'Mirror' by Chris Fish