Cormac Culkeen and Dave Grenon discuss their work together in Joyful Joyful and their new self-titled debut album, drones, noise, and beautiful possibilities in sound, queerness and being excommunicated from the church, tour dates, other future plans, and more! Supported by you on Patreon, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.