Efrim Menuck (godspeed you! black emperor) and Ariel Engle (La Force, Broken Social Scene, AroarA) of ALL HANDS_MAKE LIGHT discuss their band and new self-titled album, pandemic life and speculative capitalism, 1990s Montreal and the Hotel2Tango, synthesizers, textured vocals, and whether lyrics really matter, a 2021 Pop Montreal show, other future plans, and much more! Supported by you on Patreon, Blackbyrd Myoozik, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S. and Black Women United YEG. Follow vish online.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.