Highlights: “When Trump won back in 2016, he (Richard Kreitner) as a progressive was like, wow, is a country that elects Trump possibly worth saving?”  “They really do increasingly see the federal government, after decades of liberal activism particularly from the Supreme Court, they really do believe the federal government is their enemy today.” “It appears now that virtually everyone, both on the right and the left, virtually everyone now is calling for the federal government to get smaller.” “It is awesome to see our basic political principles, our nationalist-populist principles becoming meta-political here.”  “We have to remember that we’re living in a time of mass worldwide balkanization.” Timestamps:    [03:19] The latest call for the liberal state to secede from the Union - The Nation’s interview with Richard Kreitner [05:01] Kreitner’s reasoning on secession [05:45] The Patriot Hill’s opinion and what the interview with Kreitner shows about the leftist liberals [06:34] The solution that the leftist liberals saw - the movement towards localism [08:00] The nationalist-populist principles becoming meta-political [10:45] On the significant development that’s happening in the world and on polls regarding the secession    [12:51] The collapse of modernity and scientific rationalism and the post-modernist conceptions Resources:  Break It Up: Secession, Division, and the Secret History of America's Imperfect Union by Richard Kreitner Download your FREE “President Trump and Our Post-Secular Future” Ebook here! (Limited-time offer only) Get your copy of the critically-acclaimed “The Return of Christendom: Demography, Politics, and the Coming Christian Majority” here! (50% OFF at limited-time offer only!) Learn how your school can attract more prospects and continue to usher in a new conservative age! Click here to get a free strategy session! Thank you for taking the time to listen to this episode.  If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and/or leave a review. Do you want to be a part of the podcast and be our sponsor? Click here to partner with us and defy liberal culture! If you would like to get lots of articles on conservative trends make sure to LIKE Dr. Steve Turley’s Facebook Page and sign-up for the 'New Conservative Age Rising' Email Alerts.