On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan welcomes back Amy Virshup, the editor of the New York Times Travel section. Amy and Kiernan dive deep into this year’s “52 Places to Love” list and the challenges of travel journalism in the midst of a global pandemic. Things we talked about in today’s podcast: NYT’s “52 Places to Love” https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/travel/places-to-visit-vacation.html  Turkmenistan’s Gates of Hell https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-gates-of-hell-turkmenistan  Slovenia’s Church of the Holy Trinity https://www.istria-culture.com/en/the-holy-trinity-church-in-hrastovlje-i13