Kiersten and Julien Saunders, authors of "Cashing Out", argue the case for the 15-year career. We also discuss how people can pursue FIRE (financial independence / retire early) and live a life of purpose.   SPONSOR Personal Capital:  Sign up for Personal Capital’s free tools for your chance to win a Tesla Model 3! RESOURCES Rich and Regular Cashing Out (Book) GUEST BIO - Kiersten and Julien Saunders: Julien and Kiersten are authors of Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game By Walking Away under Portfolio Books, an imprint of Penguin Random House. They are also the creative voices behind the blog richandregular.com, producers of the award-winning video series, Money on the Table, and hosts of the rich & REGULAR podcast. Based in Atlanta, Georgia, their mission is to inspire better conversations about money. The couple has used frugal living, real estate, stock market investing and their online business to build wealth and ultimately achieve financial independence. They paid off $200,000 in five years and their story has been featured in The NY Times, Forbes, CBS This Morning, Marketwatch, the Oprah Winfrey Network and more. When they're not sharing stories about their experiences with money, they are parents to their son Beau, traveling the world or searching for their next great meal. OTHER EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE Family Wealth and Happiness:  10 Steps to a Better Tomorrow (Today) How We Paid Off Our 15 Year Mortgage in 5 Years 50% to 10%:  Why We're Happy Saving Less in FIRE Journey MKM RESOURCES MKM Coaching:  Request a free 15-minute consultation today YouTube:  Subscribe for free to watch videos of these episodes and interviews Instagram:  Follow our IG channel Voicemail:  Leave your question or comments here  Merch Store:  Check out our t-shirts, hoodies, and coffee mugs! SHOW INFORMATION:  Marriage Kids and Money Marriage Kids and Money is dedicated to helping young families build wealth and happiness. This award-winning platform helps couples and parents achieve financial independence and discover the true meaning of wealth.  To achieve these big goals, we answer questions and interview experts who uncover smart net worth building habits and tools that can help everyone find their own version of financial independence. Learn more at https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com HOST BIO:  Andy Hill Andy Hill is the award-winning family finance coach behind Marriage Kids and Money - a platform dedicated to helping young families build wealth and happiness.  Andy's advice and personal finance experience have been featured in major media outlets like CNBC, Forbes, MarketWatch, Kiplinger’s Personal Finance and NBC News. With millions of downloads and views, Andy’s message of family financial empowerment has resonated with listeners, readers and viewers across the world.    When he's not "talking money", Andy enjoys watching his kids play soccer, singing karaoke with his wife and watching Marvel movies. DISCLAIMER This show may contain affiliate links or links from our advertisers where we earn a commission, direct payment or products. Opinions are the creators alone. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered as professional advice. Marriage Kids and Money (www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. CREDITS Podcast Artwork:  Liz Theresa Editor:  Podcast Doctors