“It’s important that we learn to work together or learn not to work against one another.” This episode is sponsored in part by CARE, Doobert, and Maddie's Fund. In this episode, “Trap King” Sterling Davis returns to the show to share some of the projects he has been working on since the pandemic. Sterling, a former rapper turned trapper and TNR advocate was previously on the show on CCP Episode 243 and Episode 360. One of the new projects that he and Stacy discuss is his new podcast, Same Team Podcast, that he co-hosts with Shannon Jackson (mom to internet superstar cat, Smush), which focuses on “fixing the fixers”. During the pandemic, Sterling expanded his focus to healing the fractured relationships among some of the rescuers and rescue organizations. One of the podcast’s segments, titled “Smush the Beef”, has these rescuers and/or rescue organizations coming together to settle their differences and try to find positive solutions. Sterling discusses some of his past projects, including Tabby Dates and Pawject Runaway, as well as some of his upcoming plans for the year, including a potential TV show and continuing to tour the country advocating TNR. He and Stacy also have an in-depth conversation about TNR, including a discussion about different traps, techniques, and baits. Sterling also shares his approach to trapping colonies and emphasizes that even if you’re trapping just one cat, you’re still helping. His primary goal with TNR is to elevate the wellness of the cats in the community and to be able to provide resources to help those cats. To learn more about Sterling and the work he does, visit his website, Instagram, or Facebook. If you enjoyed this episode, check out our interview with Michael Bricker, Chief of Engagement of Companions and Animals for Reform and Equity in episode 440.