Jeff talks with The Athletic's Peter Baugh about Cale Makar’s superstar status, the Avs' will to win for veterans like Andrew Cogliano and how the team might shape up heading into next year (00:46). Later on, Garry Galley weighs in on the Blackhawks’ hiring of his close friend Luke Richardson, Makar’s resume and players battling through injuries in the playoffs (16:23). Finally, Ryan Warsofsky looks back on winning the Calder Cup as the head coach of the Chicago Wolves, and discusses finding the balance between winning and development and the importance of having veterans with NHL experience on the roster (48:21). The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.