Rodney Shows Why He’s the Apple of Our Eye

Real Life ‘Hitch’ Paul Brunson Teaches Mike How to Set ‘Realistic Standards’ for a Healthy Relationship: Professional matchmaker Paul Brunson offers Mike some advice when it comes to setting standards for the person you want to spend your life with. Paul also discusses the importance of timing in a relationship, and Bryan reveals how timing influenced his relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay. Plus, is there a right way to break up with someone? And why is marriage in the U.S. on the decline? Paul addresses all these questions and more in this week’s podcast. Then, Mike and Bryan answer fan questions on everything from fantasizing about another man while having sex with your husband to a possessive boyfriend who doesn’t want his girlfriend to post sexy photos on Instagram. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Thanks to our sponsor: Dollar Shave Club: DollarShaveClub.com/TalkItOut See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notic by Talking It Out

69 min listen

Emmanuel Acho, Plus: Mike Johnson Addresses Not Being Chosen as the Bachelor: Former NFL star, sports analyst, and best-selling author Emmanuel Acho joins Mike Johnson and Bryan Abasolo for the podcast premiere of “Talking It Out with Mike and Bryan.” Emmanuel breaks down the unwritten rules of being Black in America and gives advice to Bryan on how he and Rachel can best teach their (future) biracial children. Emmanuel also shares the most important lesson he’s learned from the great Oprah Winfrey and reveals whether he’d ever step into the role of Bachelor. Plus, Mike Johnson shares his true feelings, once and for all, about not being chosen to become the first Black Bachelor. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

51 min listen

‘Bachelor’ Contestant Chelsea Vaughn Talks Double Beauty Standards and Her Time on the Show: Chelsea Vaughn, from Matt James’ season of “The Bachelor,” joins Mike and Bryan to discuss quitting her corporate day job and following her dreams of becoming a model. She opens up about the challenges she has faced in the modeling world, including her age, the color of her skin and her body size.Then, Chelsea flips the script and asks Mike Johnson which girl from her season he finds most attractive. Plus, Mike and Bryan answer listener questions and address the double standards between men and women – covering everything from body hair to “dad bods.” Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

49 min listen

Bryan Speaks Out on Chris Harrison’s Controversial Interview with Wife Rachel Lindsay: In an emotional discussion, Mike and Bryan weigh in on the racism surrounding Bachelor Nation and how it is affecting them personally. Bryan discusses his wife Rachel Lindsay’s interview with Chris Harrison, and how he felt watching Rachel in that position. Mike also reveals that Chris called him shortly after the “Extra” interview and shares his thoughts on their conversation. Plus, where does Bachelor Nation go from here and how do we learn, grow, and be better? Mike and Bryan weigh in. Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

49 min listen

Exclusive: Thomas Reveals Never-Before-Heard Details from His Past, Plus: His Controversial Time on ‘The Bachelorette’: Thomas from Katie Thurston’s season of “The Bachelorette” joins Mike and Bryan for an intimate conversation about the man behind who we saw on TV. Thomas shares details about his upbringing as a biracial man, his struggles with depression, and the importance of his personal mentors. Then, he opens up about keeping a positive outlook after his time on “The Bachelorette” and what we can look forward to from his time on “Bachelor in Paradise.” Plus, what scenario would make you break up with your partner? Mike and Bryan weigh in. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. by Talking It Out

66 min listen

Exclusive: Bachelorette Katie Thurston Goes In-Depth on Past Trauma and Why Consent Is a Must: Bachelorette Katie Thurston opens up to Mike and Bryan about the sexual trauma she experienced and reveals why she felt compelled to tell her very personal story on the show. Katie discusses why it’s so important to normalize these conversations and talks about how learning from her past experiences has helped her have a healthy relationship with sex now. Plus, Katie, Mike, and Bryan discuss why it’s so important to share past trauma with your partner and why healthy communication is a must. Katie also shares what it was like finally telling her mother about her past experience. If you or someone you know has experienced sexual violence and needs help, please visit rainn.org. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

55 min listen

Franco Lacosta on His Role in the Bachelor Franchise and Being Comfortable in His Own Skin: Bachelor Nation’s favorite guest Franco Lacosta opens up to Mike and Bryan about what led him to the Bachelor franchise. He reveals the “Bachelor” couples he knew would end up together and who his Bachelor Nation crush is. He also talks about his childhood in Puerto Rico, fluid sexuality, and why he’s always felt comfortable in his own skin. Plus, is lingerie canceled? Mike and Bryan weigh in on that and more on today’s hot takes. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

64 min listen

Does Size Matter? Mike, Bryan & Patrick Moote from ‘UnHung Hero’ Discuss: Actor/documentarian Patrick Moote joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his quest to find out whether women really care about penis size. Is it true that men who have smaller penises generally make up for it in other areas? Nothing is off limits as Patrick, Mike, and Bryan have a no-holds-barred conversation about it all. Patrick also describes his search for penis enlargement options and what conclusions he came to along the way. Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss some of their own insecurities throughout their lives and how they overcame them. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

44 min listen

Jason Tartick on Being a Supportive Partner and Internet Bullying: Bachelor Nation fan favorite Jason Tartick opens up to Mike and Bryan about life with fiancée Kaitlyn Bristowe and what it’s like being with such a successful woman. Jason and Bryan both discuss how they knew Kaitlyn and Rachel were “the one” and how they feel about gender roles when it comes to their relationships. Plus, Jason shares how hard Kaitlyn worked while on “Dancing with the Stars,” and discusses the ways they continue to support each other’s dreams. Jason, Mike, and Bryan also talk about how they deal with online bullies. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

59 min listen

Bachelor Matt James Talks Race, His ‘Type,’ and Why Mike Told Him to Gain 15 Lbs.: Current Bachelor Matt James sits down for a conversation with Mike and Bryan that only the three of them could have. Matt discusses his “type” and sets the record straight about dating Black women. Plus, Matt shares what his life was like before “The Bachelor,” living in a tiny NYC apartment with Tyler Cameron. Then, Matt reveals the piece of advice Mike gave him before going on the show… which led to him gaining 15 pounds. Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

68 min listen

Introducing Talking It Out with Mike and Bryan – Premieres Jan 11th: Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondery App, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Uncomfortable topics, unconventional viewpoints and thought-provoking conversations about life, love, relationships, family and everything in between. Take a deep dive into the male psyche with Bachelor Nation favorites Mike Johnson and Dr. Bryan Abasolo as they give advice, get advice, and most importantly, push you outside your comfort zone. Join the conversation along with our special guest every week as we learn, reflect and talk it out! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

2 min listen

Exclusive: Zac Clark Reveals How He Went Down the Dark Path of Drugs and Addiction, How He Overcame It and His Future with Tayshia: In part one of Mike and Bryan’s exclusive interview with Bachelor Nation’s Zac Clark, Zac opens up about his sheltered upbringing and discusses how he went down the dark path of drugs and addiction. Zac also reveals how he kept his drug use a secret from almost everyone in his life.Plus, Zac tells Mike and Bryan about the last few hours he was on drugs and shares the story about reuniting with the bank teller who saved his life. Zac also discusses what it was like dating while sober on “The Bachelorette” and how his fiancée Tayshia responded to him revealing his past struggles. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

41 min listen

‘Top Model’s’ Nigel Barker on His Secret to a Happy Relationship: Photographer and “America’s Next Top Model” judge Nigel Barker gets candid with Bryan and Mike on this week’s “Talking It Out” about everything from love to how best to pose for a photo. Despite hanging around some of the most beautiful models in the world, Nigel explains why his wife of 21 years never gets jealous. Nigel also opens up about his beginnings as a model and what led him to photography. And, Nigel gives advice on how to pose for a photo – and it’s all in your head!Plus, Nigel discusses his new virtual endeavor, V1VE, and why fitness should be an essential piece in all of our lives.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

53 min listen

What Do Women Really Want? Mike, Bryan & Love Expert Diann Valentine Weigh In: It’s the age-old question: What do women really want? Mike and Bryan welcome love expert Diann Valentine to discuss what women are really looking for. From love languages to what happens between the sheets, they get into it all. Diann also reveals the big difference between what men and women look for in a relationship. Then, Mike and Bryan tackle viewer questions. Bryan opens up about his home life with wife Rachel Lindsay and reveals who does the chores. And Mike discusses the importance of honesty in relationships. Have a question you want Mike and Bryan to answer? Submit yours now at Instagram.com/talkingitoutbn. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Thanks to our sponsor: Dollar Shave Club: DollarShaveClub.com/TalkItOut See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

49 min listen

Tayshia Adams’ Father, Desmond, Stops By: It’s almost Father’s Day, and what better way to celebrate than with the amazing father of former “Bachelorette” Tayshia Adams? Desmond Adams joins Mike and Bryan and shares what Tayshia was like as a child and reveals how he found out about Tayshia going on “The Bachelor.” Desmond also explains how he knew that Colton Underwood wasn’t the one during their hometown date on “The Bachelor.” Then, he shares what he thinks about his future son-in-law Zac Clark. Plus, a special surprise from Tayshia! Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

56 min listen

Money and Relationships: Mike & Bryan Dive into the Uncomfortable Topic with a Financial Expert: Should you date when you’re broke? Is sharing a bank account a good idea once you’re married? Mike and Bryan talk to financial expert Dr. Lynn Richardson, who shares pointers and suggestions for the best way to talk about money in a relationship. She reveals who really should pay for that first date and why gender roles and money are a thing of the past. Then, Mike and Bryan share their own experiences dealing with finances in relationships. Bryan discusses the fun way he and wife Rachel Lindsay learned more about each other’s spending habits. Mike and Bryan also talk about how their cultural differences affect how they see finances and family. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

44 min listen

Joe Amabile Talks Dating, Vulnerability, and the Possibility of ‘Paradise’: “Click Bait” host Joe Amabile joins Mike and Bryan for an in-depth talk about men and vulnerability. Joe discusses his upbringing in Chicago and how that influenced his ability to open up in his future relationships. Plus, he reveals how being on reality TV taught him to communicate, share, and be vulnerable. And is “Bachelor in Paradise” in Joe’s future? He discloses whether he’d be willing to head back to the beach and admits he has his eye on a few women from the last couple seasons of the show. Plus, is crying a sign of weakness for men? Mike and Bryan open up about the times they have broken down throughout their lives. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

49 min listen

EXCLUSIVE: Dale Moss Speaks Out About His Time on ‘The Bachelorette’ and His Relationship with Clare: In this “Talking It Out” exclusive, Dale Moss reveals more about his experiences on “The Bachelorette.” by Talking It Out

64 min listen

Bachelor Nation’s Tammy Ly Gets Real About ‘Having It All’: Fan favorite Tammy Ly joins Mike and Bryan to talk about the modern-day work culture and the effect it has on our relationships. Mike and Bryan discuss their views on the woman making more money than the man in a relationship, and Tammy shares why her making more money than a boyfriend ended a previous relationship.Then, can you really have it all? Tammy, Mike, and Bryan weigh in on whether you can date while pursuing your career and whether being “too busy to date” is legit or a cop-out. Plus, will we see Tammy on the beaches of “Paradise”? Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

58 min listen

MTV’s Cory Wharton Weighs In on the Role of Communication in the Modern Family: Cory Wharton from MTV’s “The Real World,” “The Challenge,” and “Teen Mom” joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his unconventional family, and why communication is such a key piece in its success. Cory discusses co-parenting with his ex, Cheyenne, and the struggles they’ve had along the way while raising daughter Ryder. Plus, Mike and Bryan open up about their different upbringings. Mike discusses how growing up in a predominantly female household shaped him into the man he is today, and Bryan talks about having three older siblings who lived overseas and the effect that had on his life. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

49 min listen

Initiate Sex, Set Expectations, and More Ways to Maintain a Relationship and Career; NFL Star Matt Judon Joins: Mike and Bryan discuss how they maintain successful relationships while also having demanding careers. Bryan reveals how he and wife Rachel Lindsay are managing their current long-distance living situation, and what their plans are for the future. Plus, NFL star Matthew Judon joins the conversation to talk about how his wife deals with his football schedule and his long hours training. Have a question you want Mike and Bryan to answer? Submit yours now at instagram.com/talkingitoutbn. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Thanks to our sponsor: Dollar Shave Club: DollarShaveClub.com/TalkItOutSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

43 min listen

Dating Outside Your Race: Mike, Bryan & Bachelor Nation’s Ivan Hall Discuss: Bachelor Nation fan favorite Ivan Hall joins Mike and Bryan to discuss their experiences dating outside their race. Bryan opens up about being in an interracial relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay and what he’s learned about Black women over the course of their marriage. Mike discusses the hate he’s gotten in the past for dating women who were not Black. Plus, Ivan talks about his upbringing and what it means being half Asian and half Black in this country. He discusses how he embraces both cultures and the ways he’s standing up for BLM and the AAPI community.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

45 min listen

Man Chat: Getting Real About Cancel Culture: Mike and Bryan dive into the topic of cancel culture, discussing how severe an action must be to justify someone being “canceled.” They also debate the difference between cancel culture and accountability culture.Plus, does canceling someone actually teach them a lesson? Or is there a better way to hold someone accountable? Mike and Bryan get into it all.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

60 min listen

Bri Springs Talks Unconventional Families and Reveals Her Mom’s Skepticism of Matt James: Bachelor Nation’s Bri Springs joins Mike and Bryan to discuss her childhood growing up with a teenage mom and how that impacted her entire life. Bri also opens up about her mom’s skepticism when it came time to meet Bachelor Matt James, and Bri explains why her mom never liked any of her previous boyfriends. Plus, can men and women be “just friends”? Mike, Bryan, and Bri have a heated debate about the issue. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

57 min listen

Reality Star Carl Radke Discusses Addiction and Mental Health Awareness After Brother’s Tragic Death: Bravo’s “Summer House” star Carl Radke opens up about his brother’s tragic passing and how it changed the course of his own life. Carl reveals he went from self-medicating and partying four or five nights a week to now being sober and in therapy. He also explains what he learned about mental illness from his own experiences and his brother’s death. Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss what they do for self-care, and Bryan shares why therapy has been so beneficial in his relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay. Mike and Bryan also answer fan questions, including how to tell your family you’d like to attend therapy. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

48 min listen

Mike & Bryan Discuss What They Learned About Themselves on Reality TV: In today’s “Talking It Out,” Mike and Bryan are diving into fan questions, opening up about everything from the worst headline they’ve seen about themselves to the one piece of advice they’d give to single guys. Bryan discusses the instant bond he felt with Rachel on “The Bachelorette,” and both Mike and Bryan reveal the biggest regret they have from their time on the show. Plus, the hosts weigh in on social media and the effect it has on the beauty standards people set for themselves. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

61 min listen

Brendan Shares His Story, Teases ‘Men Tell All’ Drama: Brendan, who made it far on “The Bachelorette,” was a mystery to the fans. He joined Mike and Bryan to share more of his story and details we didn’t get to see on the show. He talks about his mixed race and nontraditional family life, and why a healthy relationship is so important to him. He also spills about his relationship with Katie and what to expect at “Men Tell All.” Plus, what would you do if you saw your friend cheat? Mike and Bryan weigh in on that topic and more on today’s hot takes. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

70 min listen

Grocery Store Joe Steps In As Co-Host; ‘Bachelor in Paradise’ is Back!: “Bachelor in Paradise” is back, and Joe Amabile steps in as guest co-host with Mike Johnson to talk it out! The guys are joined by Kelsey Weier, who you may remember from "champagne-gate" on season 24 of “The Bachelor,” and she gives us a tease of what we can expect on the upcoming season of “Paradise.” by Talking It Out

58 min listen

Hunter Speaks Out on Sobriety, Tourette’s Syndrome, and What’s in Store for His ‘Paradise’ Friends: Hunter, a standout contestant from Katie’s season of “The Bachelorette,” joins “Talking It Out” this week to share more about his incredible life story. Hunter reveals details on his harrowing journey with drugs and how a close-call trip to prison led him on his path to sobriety. He also opens up about his experiences as a single father and why his Tourette’s syndrome being shown on “The Bachelorette” is something he’s now extremely proud of. Then, Hunter gives us some tea about his friends on the beaches of “Bachelor in Paradise.” Plus, would your current partner have been your type 10 years ago? Mike and Bryan weigh in. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. by Talking It Out

70 min listen

Bibiana on the Depression She Faced After ‘Bachelor in Paradise’ and How She Overcame It: Bachelor Nation’s Bibiana Julian opens up about falling into a deep depression after coming off “Bachelor in Paradise.” She reveals the steps she took to begin healing and why she’s working to help others live their best lives as well. She also shares what she learned about herself watching the show back.Plus, would you rekindle a romance with an ex? Mike, Bryan, and Bibiana weigh in on that topic and more in today’s hot takes.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. by Talking It Out

58 min listen

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Rodney Shows Why He’s the Apple of Our Eye

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