After the news broke that federal prosecutors secretly seized emails and phone records from New York Times reporter Ali Watkins, co-hosts Michael Isikoff and Dan Klaidman examine other instances where this has happened in past administrations. They speak with The Intercept’s James Risen about his experience as a New York Times reporter when his records were seized by the Obama administration. Isikoff and Klaidman also sit down with Obama chief of public affairs Matt Miller, who was in the administration when they seized Risen’s records, to discuss why administrations use this tactic against journalists. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.