“Collaboration—that's the easiest way to grow” says Aaron Dessner, member of the National and Big Red Machine, and a prolific collaborator with artists from Taylor Swift to Kanye West. In our final episode of Season two, we’re talking to Aaron about what it’s like to learn and experiment alongside other musicians, and how valuable that can be for breaking through into new creative frontiers. To close out this season, Hanif leaves us with an expression of gratitude, and a final thought on music as a communal experience. For the playlist of songs curated for this episode head over to https://bit.ly/oos-aaron-dessner. Music In This Week's Episode:Big Red Machine, MagnoliaAaron Dessner and Lauren Mayberry, Who’d You Kill Now?Taylor Swift and Bon Iver, exile (feat. Bon Iver)Aaron Dessner, Big Red MachineRichard Reed Perry, In A MomentHiss Golden Messenger, Terms of SurrenderHannah Georgas, EasyBig Red Machine and Sharon Van Etten, A Crime Show Notes: Big Red Machine’s latest album, How Long Do You Think It's Gonna Last? is out now.You can watch Julien Baker’s performance of “Claws In Your Back” at Eaux Claires IV, featuring Hanif’s poetry performance, here. The Eaux Claires Festival is expected to return, reimagined, in 2022.  Credits:This show is produced by work by work: Scott Newman, Jemma Rose Brown, Mayari Sherina Ong, Kathleen Ottinger and by Hanif Abdurraqib. The show is mixed by Sam Bair.