The Athletic's James Pearce, Simon Hughes and Caoimhe O'Neill join Steve Hothersall to pick the bones out of Liverpool's 7-2 defeat at Villa Park.
Was it a freak result? Or are there reasons to be genuinely concerned? And should we expect a lower points total this season?
They also review the club's transfer dealings after the window closed on Monday night. How does it compare to the other teams at the top of the table? 
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