How Venezuelans reached a breaking point, and how a team of savvy politicians orchestrated the break. No one expected the greatest threat of a proxy war to come out of South America -- right?
Guests: Ana Vanessa Herrero, reporter for the New York Times. Josh Keating, senior editor of foreign affairs for Slate.
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Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon. 
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