The window for rescuing Afghans is rapidly closing, and for many, that will mean adjusting to life under the 'new' Taliban. Diplomatic correspondent Catherine Philp first met the Taliban 20 years ago. Today: the differences between the Taliban's claims that they've become more moderate, and their actions. Plus, we profile the leadership.This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today and get one month free at: thetimes.co.uk/storiesofourtimes. Guest: Catherine Philp, diplomatic correspondent, The Times. Host: Manveen Rana.Clips: CNN, WION, NDTV, Al Jazeera, PBS, TOLO News, DW News, Sky News, NewsX. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.