President Donald Trump came to power promising to "build a wall." Throughout his term there was turmoil at the border. When Joe Biden took office, he vowed to change course and offer a more humane approach. But with record numbers of migrants crossing the border, and daily expulsions on the rise, has anything really changed?This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today and get one month free at: thetimes.co.uk/storiesofourtimes.Host: Manveen Rana.Guest: Trisha Garcia, freelance journalist.Clips used: CBS, ABC, PBS, NBC. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.