Kirk sits down with producer, composer, and master mixer Brian Bender to talk about the state of the recording art.Brian Bender has been making records since the early 2000s, from slinging cable at legendary NY spots like Electric Lady and the Hit Factory to running his own studio, The Motherbrain, in Los Angeles. He’s worked with countless artists and worked on dozens of films and TV shows. He’s also the guy who taught Kirk how to play Street Fighter back in grade school.On this episode, Kirk reunites with his old buddy to talk about the producer’s role in the studio, Al Green's cookies, common mix misconceptions, how to mic drums, and how to get a good handclap sound.Follow Brian (and check out his studio) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bdbender/Brian Bender's (Partial) Discography: https://www.discogs.com/artist/361112-Brian-BenderFilm & TV Credits: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4685996/REFERENCED ON THIS EPISODETERMSA/D or D/A: Analog to digital conversion“In the Box”: Making music entirely digitally with no outboard gearStems - Submixes of like tracks (e.g. the strings, the guitars) which an engineer can work with instead of individual tracks in order to streamline workflowMUSIC“Stop” by Joe Henry from Scar, 2001“A.D. 2000” by Erykah Badu from Mama’s Gun, 2000 (mixed by Russell Elvado)“Lay It Down” by Al Green from Lay It Down, 2008“Mother Brain” by Minako Mamano from Super Metroid, 1994“If You Hear Me,” “Promised Land” by Ben Williams from I Am a Man, 2020“Super Bad” by James Brown feat. Jabo Starks on drums, 1970“Nobody Knows My Name” by José James feat. Laura Mvala & Kris Bowers from No Beginning No End 2, 2020“Church Girl” by Laura Mvula from Pink Noise, 2021“Elevator" by Gavin Turek from Madame Gold, 2021“Guilty” by Barbra Streisand w/ Barry Gibb, 1980GEAR DISCUSSEDDrums:C&C Custom Drum SetLudwig Supraphonic Snare DrumStudio Gear:Studer 2-inch 24-Track Tape RecorderAmpex 602 2-Track 1/2-Inch Tape RecorderOtari 2-inch 16-track Multitrack Tape MachineTeletronix LA-2A CompressorMicrophones:AKG 414 (The OG)Shure SM57 (The GOAT)Electro-Voice 642 Cardiline Dynamic Shotgun Mic (Kick Batter)Neumann U47 FET (Kick Head)Inverted Yamaha NS-10 Woofer (Sub Kick Mic)Sennheiser 421 (Toms)Coles 4038 ribbon (Overheads, the other GOAT)Lomo 19a19 tube condenser (Secret Russian mic)OTHER THINGSTate’s Bake ShopGeorge Massenburg explains the GML8200 Parametric EQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kBFqHo2z9QThe movie “Barb and Star go to Vista Del Mar,” 2021Correction: Kirk initially erroneously described Bender as having won multiple Grammys and Emmys, but he has only been nominated (so far). The episode has been edited to remove the error.STRONG MERCHVisit the Strong Songs merch store for some cool t-shirts, mugs, totes, and more: store.strongsongspodcast.comKEEP IT SOCIALYou can follow Strong Songs on Twitter @StrongSongs: http://twitter.com/strongsongsAnd you can find Kirk on Twitter @Kirkhamilton and on Instagram at @Kirk_Hamilton: https://www.instagram.com/kirk_hamilton/NEWSLETTER/MAILING LISTSign up for Kirk's mailing list to start getting monthly-ish newsletters with music recommendations, links, news, and extra thoughts on new Strong Songs episodes: https://kirkhamilton.substack.com/subscribeSTRONG PLAYLISTSKirk has condensed his Strong Songs picks into a single list, which you can find on Spotify and Apple Music, and YouTube Music.SUPPORT STRONG SONGS ON PATREON!This episode was made possible by Strong Songs' lovely Patreon backers. For more on how to become a patron and support the show, go here: https://Patreon.com/StrongSongsJULY 2021 WHOLE-NOTE PATRONSRob BosworthJosh PearsonKyle CookeDonald MackieMelissa OsborneChristopher MillerTim ByrnePatrick FunstonJamie WhiteChristopher KupskiChristopher McConnellJoshua JarvisNikoJoe LaskaLaurie AcremanKen HirshJezJenness GardnerSimon CammellGuinevere BoostromNarelle HornNathaniel BauernfeindBill RosingerAnne BrittDavid ZahmErinAidan CoughlanJeanneret Manning Family FourDoug Paton