On this week's New Statesman podcast Helen Lewis, George Eaton, Tim Wigmore and Lucy Fisher discuss the fall of the BNP, Lib Dems in turmoil and the results of the European Elections, Ian Leslie tells the story of a pilot determined to banish avoidable error from the NHS, and Ian Steadman weighs the advantages of "climate change" versus "global warming". See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.