Austin Kleon is a writer, artist, and speaker. Austin also speaks about creativity for organizations such as Pixar, Google, SXSW, and many others. He is the author of many books, including Steal Like an Artist, and Newspaper Blackout.In this episode, Eric and Austin discuss his book, Keep Going: 10 Ways to Stay Creative in Good Times and BadBut wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you!In This Interview, Austin Kleon and I Discuss How to Stay Creative and …His book, Keep Going: 10 Ways to Stay Creative in Good Times and BadHow his deep work has usually originated from a dark placeLife is about the balance between the light and dark in usHis long term pessimism and short term optimismMaking peace with things not ever getting easier and learning to enjoy the now.How there are no perfect conditions in life so no sense waiting or worrying about what’s nextIf/And statements and how life is not linear in that wayHis reflection on the book her wrote 10 years agoTrying to get back to the beginner’s mindSeeking curiosity over wisdomOrdinary life + extra attention = the extraordinaryPaying attention by drawing, writing, reading poetry, or walkingTrying to view things as an artist mightForget the noun, do the verbThe importance of having a hobbiesHow energy can be found in books and works of artAustin Kleon Links:Austin’s WebsiteTwitterInstagramUpstart: The fast and easy way to get a personal loan to consolidate, lower your interest rate, and pay off your debt. Go to www.upstart.com/wolfCalm App: The app designed to help you ease stress and get the best sleep of your life through meditations and sleep stories. Join the 85 million people around the world who use Calm to get better sleep. Get 40% off a Calm Premium Subscription (a limited time offer!) by going to www.calm.com/wolfIf you enjoyed this conversation with Austin Kleon, you might also enjoy these other episodes:Finding Your Creativity with Julia CameronWriting as a Path to Awakening with Albert Flynn DeSilverSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.