Phil, Jase, and Al are joined by Zach’s wife, Jill Dasher, who shares the details of her new book, "Shallow: Drowning in the Shallow End of People's Approval." Jill reminisces about meeting Zach in a laundromat, and Jase has some surprising admissions about laundry. Phil and Jill discuss raising kids in a device-centric world and how you can teach your children to do right. Jill confesses her struggles with perfectionism and how her insecurities almost ruined her marriage. Jase and Jill talk about the pitfalls of social media and why we always see ourselves in the worst light. And Al reveals Zach's hilarious fail at his own wedding.

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