Carey Pietsch and Dan Berry chat about being a trusting collaborator, showing your working out and visualising the story in your head or on paper. You can follow Carey on twitter, and check out Carey's Patreon here. The fourth Adventure Zone graphic novel, The Crystal Kingdom is available now! Dan has a new book out too! Check out Rivers, with David Gaffney published by Top Shelf! Order it from your local independent book store! Consider supporting the Make It Then Tell Everybody podcast on Patreon for listening notes and behind the scenes blog posts from $1 per episode.