There really wasn't much excuse, except that our two heroes found themselves in the Gershwin Room with no idea at all about what they would discuss and so, with apologies, they ended up discussing awards again.  It wasn't intended, the discussion is being had elsewhere anyway, and solemn promises have been made that it will not happen again (at least for a while). If, however, this doesn't put you off, then sit back and relax while Gary and Jonathan discuss just what the point of awards is anyway and whether there's anything left to say about science fiction.