Sean Illing talks with philosopher David Chalmers about virtual worlds and the nature of reality, and other topics that stem from Chalmers's new book Reality+. In this far-reaching discussion, Sean and Prof. Chalmers get into the makeup of human consciousness, the question of whether we're living in a computer simulation, and — of course — The Matrix. Are digital worlds genuine realities, or will their proliferation lead to a troublesome turning away from the physical world?
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
Guest: David Chalmers, University Professor of Philosophy and Neural Science, NYU; co-director, Center for Mind, Brain, and Consciousness
References: 


Reality+: Virtual Worlds and the Problems of Philosophy by David J. Chalmers (Norton; 2022)


Meditations on First Philosophy by René Descartes (1641)


"Are You Living In a Computer Simulation?" by Nick Bostrom (Philosophical Quarterly vol. 53 (211); 2003)


The Matrix (1999), dir. by The Wachowskis; The Matrix Resurrections (2021), dir. by Lana Wachowski


Free Guy (2021), dir. by Shawn Levy


Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (1992)


Anarchy, State, and Utopia by Robert Nozick (1974)


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