Jonathan Pageau joins me for a journey into the philosophical, theological, and existential aspects of civilization and its potential reshaping through Bitcoin.Be sure to check out NYDIG, one of the most important companies in Bitcoin: https://nydig.com/GUESTJonathan’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathanJonathan’s Show: https://thesymbolicworld.com/PODCASTPodcast Website: https://whatismoneypodcast.com/Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-is-money-show/id1541404400Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25LPvm8EewBGyfQQ1abIsE?si=wgVuY16XR0io4NLNo0A11A&nd=1RSS Feed: https://feeds.simplecast.com/MLdpYXYITranscript:OUTLINE00:00:00 “What is Money?” Intro00:00:08 What is Meaning?00:07:17 What is Value?00:09:28 Are some Value Hierarchies Objectively Better?00:11:54 Goodness is Fittedness to Purpose00:13:31 Are Individuals Self-Owned?00:16:41 Free Will vs. Determinism from the Orthodox Perspective00:19:13 Incentives are Tools00:23:55 Humans as the Intermediaries Between Heaven and Earth00:26:31 Bottom-Up Emergence and Top-Down Emanation00:29:06 Collective Intelligence Is The Free Market00:34:34 The Corruption of Money is Propelled by the Pursuit of Power?00:37:22 Can We Ever Justify Compulsion, Coercion, and Violence?00:40:51 Does Human Nature Disallow Libertarianism?00:43:11 Responsibility for The Poor According to Christianity00:48:56 Does Bitcoin Lead Us Toward “Digital Feudalism”?00:52:18 Bitcoin as the Disruption of War Mongering?00:54:11 How Do You Define God?00:56:37 “Ghut”: The Etymology of The Word: “God”00:58:25 “Paying Taxes is a Religious Sacrifice”01:02:07 The Fragility of Modernity01:06:51 The Coming 2029 Collapse?01:08:40 “When the Gestapo is in the Streets…”01:11:22 The Specter of CBDCs01:16:16 The Power of Hyper-Mobile Capital01:19:12 The Corrosion of Agent-Arena Relationships01:22:02 We Have Less Scarcity Than Ever…01:24:24 NYDIG01:25:33 Are All Social Institutions Religious in Nature?01:29:15 Fractals: The Intrinsic Geometry of Nature01:33:45 The Brutal Reality of Political Power01:36:54 “Revolution is Inevitable”01:41:00 Gold as a Tool for Political Power01:46:40 The Marketplace as a Macrocosmic Reflection of Mind01:49:30 Zombie Companies and the Lack of Capitalistic Autophagy01:55:16 The Spirit of Innovation, and Innovation as Power01:58:49 Humanity, Mimesis, and Love02:05:55 The Reciprocity Between Creator and Creation02:13:09 The State as the Systemized Predation of Property02:16:28 The Economics of Organized Violence02:24:00 Why Bitcoin is Effectively an Evolution of the Internet02:29:07 “In a World with Money with Infinite Money, The Finite Money Wins”02:32:19 The Christian Interpretation of Freedom02:40:08 The Importance of Honest Weights and MeasuresSOCIALBreedlove Twitter: https://twitter.com/Breedlove22WiM? Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatisMoneyShowLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/breedlove22/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breedlove_22/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@breedlove22?lang=enAll My Current Work: https://linktr.ee/breedlove22​WRITTEN WORKMedium: https://breedlove22.medium.com/Substack: https://breedlove22.substack.com/WAYS TO CONTRIBUTEBitcoin: 3D1gfxKZKMtfWaD1bkwiR6JsDzu6e9bZQ7Sats via Strike: https://strike.me/breedlove22Sats via Tippin.me: https://tippin.me/@Breedlove22Dollars via Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/RBreedloveDollars via Venmo: https://venmo.com/code?user_id=1784359925317632528The "What is Money?" Show Patreon Page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=32843101&fan_landing=trueRECOMMENDED BUSINESSESWorldclass Bitcoin Financial Services: https://nydig.com/Join Me At Bitcoin 2022 (10% off if paying with fiat, or discount code BREEDLOVE for Bitcoin): https://www.tixr.com/groups/bitcoinconference/events/bitcoin-2022-26217Automatic Recurring Bitcoin Buying: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/breedlove/Buy Bitcoin in a Tax-Advantaged Account: https://www.daim.io/robert-breedlove/Home Delivered Organic Grass-Fed Beef (Spend $159+ for 4 lbs. free):