Sam Lightner Jr., author of Heavy Green: The Collision of two Unlikely Missions in America's Secret War, talks to Sean Tuohy about how a rock-climbing expedition unexpectedly led to him writing fiction. To learn more about Sam Lightner Jr., visit his official website or like his Facebook page. Also read Sean Tuohy’s review of Heavy Green in September’s “Books That Should Be On Your Radar.” Today's episode is brought to you by Novelize and Sid Sanford Lives!