Laura, Jim and Lisa interview Australian investigative journalist and award winning author Jess Hill about her book 'See What You Made Me Do.'In this episode, we discuss Luke Batty's case which was the starting point for Jess to write the book and the coercive control law Laura successfully campaigned for in England and Wales. Jess deconstructs Albert Biderman's model of coercion used on prisoners of war in North Korea and we talk about how these are the same tactics that are used by what Laura calls 'domestic terrorists' all across the world, as well as unpick how women feel compelled the 'fix' the relationship and the perpetrator.Jess has been writing and researching about domestic abuse since 2014. Before that she was a producer for ABC Radio, a Middle East correspondent for The Global Mail, and an investigative journalist for Background Briefing. Jess was listed in Foreign Policy's top 100 women to follow on Twitter, and also as one of 30 most influential people under 30 by Cosmopolitan magazine.Jess's reporting has won two Walkley awards, an Amnesty International award and three Our Watch awards. The Australian version of SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO is currently available in stores, Audible and Amazon. It will be available in the UK on August 27 and USA on September 1 2020. You can follow Jess on Twitter @jessradio #HisNameWasLukeBattyTHANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORSATHLETIC GREENSVisit AthleticGreens.com/REALCRIME to receive 20 free travel packs with your first purchase.BEST FIENDSDownload for Free at the Apple App Store or Google PlayFUNCTION OF BEAUTYGo to Functionofbeauty.com/RealCrime for 20% offSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.