On today's podcast episode #600, Alisa sits down with Jackie Hill Perry to discuss her newest book that released this week, Holier Than Thou. Holier Than Thou uses the Bible to show us why holiness isn’t something to fear but rather something to embrace as the best news in the world and is the key to trusting Him. In this candid and fun conversation, they discuss what Jackie's up to now, Alisa asks a question Jackie's never been asked before, and they even discuss kegels! This is a conversation you don't want to miss! Listen to this podcast in your favorite app or watch the interview on YouTube. Follow Jackie on Instagram @jackiehillperry and get the new book at holierthanthoubook.net.