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An “uncomfortable” conversation with Cory Booker

An “uncomfortable” conversation with Cory Booker

FromThe Gray Area with Sean Illing


An “uncomfortable” conversation with Cory Booker

FromThe Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Length:
94 minutes
Released:
Jan 13, 2020
Format:
Podcast episode

Description

There is a moral radicalism to the way Cory Booker lives out his politics. He lived for years in a housing project. He leads hunger strikes. He challenges political machines. He’s a vegan. He has a more ambitious policy vision than is often discussed. But beneath that is a far more radical ethical vision than he gets credit for.
I think there’s a reason for that. When Booker turns his politics turn outward, they lose clarity. He shies away from drawing bright lines, his answers double back to blur out potential offense. As a result, his arguments for a politics of radical love end up emphasizing his love in ways that obscure his radicalism. As admiring as I am of what Booker demands of himself, I often can’t tell what he’s asking of me.
In this conversation, I wanted Booker to risk my discomfort, not just his own. And in his answers, I think you can hear both the remarkable promise and power of Booker’s politics, and some of the challenges that ultimately led him to suspend his campaign.
References/Book recommendations:
Tightrope by Nicholas Kristof 
“Who Killed the Knapp Family” by Nicholas Kristof 
The Violence Inside Us by Chris Murphy 

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Released:
Jan 13, 2020
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