In today's podcast, we hear about warnings from Cisco's Talos unit and others concerning DNSMessenger, a dangerous and evasive RAT. DDoS hits Luxembourg government sites and remains a threat to businesses. The US is said to be running a cyber campaign against North Korea's ballistic missile program. The US Defense Science Board releases its report on cyber-deterrence. Rick Howard from Palo Alto Networks explores the history of security orchestration. Mutual recriminations over allegations of election-season campaign surveillance swirl in the US.