David Ginsburg of In Touch With iOS made his first trip to CES this year, and joins us to talk about his experiences, how his expectations lined up with reality, and whether he will be headed back next year. He also comments on the impact iOS 13 and iPhones 11 are making, and the pros and cons of combining Mac and iOS license purchases for both developers and end users. This edition of MacVoices is supported by Linode, high performance cloud hosting and virtual servers for everyone. To take $20 off your first order, visit Linode.com/macvoices. Show Notes: Chuck Joiner is the producer and host of MacVoices. You can catch up with what he's doing on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Subscribe to the show: iTunes: - Audio in iTunes - Video in iTunes - HD Video in iTunes Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:  - Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss  - Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss Donate to MacVoices via Paypal or become a MacVoices Patron. Guests: David Ginsburg is the President of the Suburban Chicago Apple Users Group, and is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Find and follow him on Twitter as @daveg65. You can also hear him share his knowledge on his podcast, In Touch With iOS.