What happens when a scientist is also a musician? For Barbara McClintock, the combination may have led the way to a Nobel Prize in genetics. Science historian Jocelyn Bosley tells us the story of Barbara’s remarkable life, and how her experience playing banjo in a jazz band (yes) helped her discover “jumping genes.”

This is a very musical episode, with special guest jazz banjoist Mick Sullivan of The Past & The Curious! We highly recommend his history podcast.

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We have more resources to learn about Barbara McClintock on our website, as well as links to Jocelyn’s podcast, Science! With Friends. Just go to sciencepodcastforkids.com!