The legendary professor Simon Carley is joining us all the way from Manchester, UK to talk about positive innovations and evidence based agility. There is a fine balance between being slow to change and missing out on something that might benefit the patients, and jumping in too quickly into something harmful. The panic is understandable, what can we do about this virus, how can we treat it? The pressure to change is so high that the people are losing the plot with the evidence based medicine.